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« on: October 23, 2009, 03:27:04 PM »

Hi all,
no wood at all in this puzzle... sorry. But I spent some time for it and I would like to show you and ask your opinion...
You know, in doing ambigrams the "designer" is unable to assess the degree of readability because he has in his head what should be read and it is not easy to simulate the contrary.
This is an idea I had by seeing the doormat Come in/Go away by Scott Kim, but I tried another inversion type based on mirror reflection suitable for a glass door.
going to show you: entering/exiting one should read :

EDIT: I realize the answer is in the filename...... do not look at it  Wink


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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 03:33:08 PM »

Very nice Rolly!  It looks quite good to me... Cool
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 03:56:43 PM »

thanks john, initially I worked on a version with the double L because I thought it was written like that  Embarrassed  (shame)
I obtained also a rather good result with bienvenu/aurevoir but also here a "e" was missing.... 
With italian I renounced before trying..... arrivederci ... too long!

But I have this doubt: I remind having heard or read "goodbye cruel world".... Roll Eyes

What is the actual meaning: "adieu" or "au revoir"?..... sorry for this stupid question... it seems strange one says "au revoir" cruel world
 Embarrassed  maybe I had to ask it before.... but goodbye ... well came!  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 04:16:59 PM »

Well, 'adieu' literally means 'to God', meaning; 'to bid a fond farewell'

Now 'au revoir' literlly means 'on your return', meaning; 'goodbye, till we meet again'

They are considered synomyms, but their meanings are slightly different  Wink

When I was in grade school, one of my close friends had moved from Quebec, always used 'salut' for goodbye... Cool
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 05:14:19 PM »

I see , it seems that my confusion came from italiam. Indeed addio has the same root of french but the meaning is different. the dictionary says:
addio
1 form of greeting used as leave, mostly final "addio" dear friend | | to something: see it fade, lose
2 Expression of regret and disappointment that the fading of something
3 Final letter to someone; give the "addio" to someone,  | The last salute extreme before burial

that's why I misunderstood: addio means final .... In italy it sounds very sad, generally is never used.  if someone says  "addio" to you.... either she/he is a girl/boyfriend who is leaving you or .....even worse ... they are 6 feet above your level   Roll Eyes

happy that goodbye does not sound like that... thank you for the lesson
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 05:33:23 PM »

How about "CIAO" that reads the same from the front or back, is this possible?  C and O are pretty close?  This would be appropriate as is means both Hello and Goodbye, right?

Or "ALOHA"?

I have trouble reading the goodbye above.  The Welcome is understandable ...
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 06:56:08 PM »

It should be rather easy indeed.... it came to my mind this doormat version which is invariant for top/down not for front to back reversal,  but I will try thank you.

which is the critical point of goodbye, george, the double o, or the db ?


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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 11:48:51 AM »

Cool!  I like the doormat CIAO!  Grin Grin

which is the critical point of goodbye, george, the double o, or the db ?

I had problems with the starting g, I initially saw an s.  Also the oo looks like an m.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 12:29:51 PM »

OK OK I want one that says "welcome" on one side of the glass, but when looking from the other side says,  "Get off my freaking lawn you young whipper snappers or I will throw a cat at you."  Am I being unreasonable?

Seriously Rolly, you are a credit to the craft.  Your flip arounds are awesome.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 07:28:24 AM »

 Grin  Grin

Roby, one of the first known ambigrams is related to you...


I just added bee:



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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 10:24:49 AM »

Thanks Rolly,  I will paint that on the side of my hive box so that my bees know what they are even when thier home gets flipped upside down.   Wink
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 11:58:11 AM »

Speakin' of honey...did you harvest any yet?
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 01:04:45 PM »

Yeah,

  I got a few pounds a while back.  It was really too early in the season, but the bees were trying to swarm (make a new queen and half the hive off to some other location).  They were actually trying to move into my attic.  I took a few pounds of honey out just to make some more room in the hive so that they would not feel that they had run out of space.  Brutally, I had to kill the new queen they had made to keep all the bees in the same hive.  I have since made a second hive out of scrap wood, so the next time they try to pull the stunt, I will just have 2 hives instead of one. 

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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 01:12:09 PM »

That reminds me of a video I just seen about some 'renegade' bee keepers on the rooftops of New York City...it's apparently illegal to keep bees in New York  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 01:52:46 PM »

Thanks Rolly,  I will paint that on the side of my hive box so that my bees know what they are even when thier home gets flipped upside down.   Wink
I realized that the ambigram bee as I wrote above is invariable for flipping upside-down, mirroring left-right and the combination of two: flip+mirror.
although very short it is the only one I know that fulfills this three-fold symmetry.
one coulld remark that the third is a consequence of the first two but it is funny anyway

 Wink

PS do I need psychiatric help? Grin
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