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rolly_wood
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RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 11, 2009, 03:03:18 PM »
Hi all
I named it BC-blossom from Beveled-Cube Blossom (or Before Christ Blossom
) derived from Blossom by Bernhard Wiezorke. But instead of having spheres I used beveled cubes or, if you prefer, truncated rhombic dodecahedra. The difference is noticeable: of Blossom John Rausch says "pieces hold together after the last piece is snapped into place".
With BC pieces it is impossible to snap the last piece. Instead you will need to preassemble two halves each mirror of the other like this
here is during the assembling phase
It is an easy puzzle but the shape of the two halves is rather confounding and to find out how they matches is not so straightforward..
See also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHCZ2SqWbsk
What do you think? may it be considered a new design or not? I confess that i do not know how are the pieces of RD16......
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 01:22:08 AM »
Sorry the right link is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwNBLPRlNA
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 03:42:56 AM »
3 posts by yourself, I think you have all the other puzzlers dumbfounded
OK, I made one using wood spheres, then add 4 more at the apex
so it became a tetrahedron, a pyramid, 2 pairs of 5 each. Fun to play and it still clcks
Try this with the RDs and see if it fits, it should
I.d call yours a variation, something different
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 03:44:44 AM »
Hi all
I think we found with rolly wood a very good woodworker for the forum, or he found us, thanks to all his interesting posts and pics
happy puzzling
Utahfan
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 09:01:56 AM »
Quote from: Chinnomotto on February 12, 2009, 03:42:56 AM
3 posts by yourself, I think you have all the other puzzlers dumbfounded
OK, I made one using wood spheres, then add 4 more at the apex
so it became a tetrahedron, a pyramid, 2 pairs of 5 each.
I did the model of that but, as you are saying, it has 2 pairs, not 4 equal pieces.... interesting variation anyway. Thanks
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Try this with the RDs and see if it fits, it should
Yes it does!
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I.d call yours a variation, something different
I agree. That's why I called it BC-Blossom to acknowledge the creator of Blossom but also saying that this is a variation more rough-edged, primitive, ...... Before Christ ! (or Beveled Cube)..
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I think we found with rolly wood a very good woodworker for the forum, or he found us, thanks to all his interesting posts and pics
Thanks to you Bernhard. Honoured that you are considering myself as an "active" member. I already found you, as master puzzlemakers, years ago, but now it is a pleasure for me to directly talk with you all.
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 09:58:50 AM »
Rolly, I made both the 'Four Piece Pyramid' and the 'Octahedral Cluster' and got to tell you, those type of designs are some of the most confusing puzzles I've ever encountered...
Well done on your variation(s)!!
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 10:52:25 AM »
Quote from: Canuck on February 12, 2009, 09:58:50 AM
Rolly, I made both the 'Four Piece Pyramid' and the 'Octahedral Cluster' and got to tell you, those type of designs are some of the most confusing puzzles I've ever encountered...
Well done on your variation(s)!!
I have not understood John, have those puzzle you are reporting the same L-shaped pieces as the blossom? In this case, I would have had an idea already used before...
But the 4 piece pyramid has dissimiilar pieces, has not it? ........ I believe that is confounding!
"My" variation, if we can call it like that, is simpler because pieces are equal but when you have them in hands things become harder because the shapes of the two halves are strange and it is not easy to guess how they match.
Also disassembling is rather "diagonal". I never did diagonal cube but should be similar: an unexpected axis.
I have never had in my hands FPPyramid but I assume that if you toss in air tend to disassemble (not sure of it). BC-Blossom does not because is 2+2 halves.
It is good for playing: pieces equal, not too difficult but not too easy, stable. Great Wiezorke's idea. But (I am poorly humble here
) with BCs is even better than spheres
I wrote to Wiezorke letting him know of this but he never replied.. probably I used and outdated address... someone knows him?
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 11:14:17 AM »
Well actually, the 'Four Piece Pyramid' and 'Octahedral Cluster' are both serially interlocking so only one order of assembly...not like your design at all, pieces are all different as well, like you mentioned
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Quote from: Canuck on February 12, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
... are both serially interlocking so only one order of assembly....
oh, I did not know it, I've never done or seen them, thank you.
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February 12, 2009, 02:45:04 PM »
Rolly here's a few pics of the 'Four Piece Pyramid' and the 'Octahedral Cluster' I made...note the use of 6 sided center blocks to make the RD blocks...
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 12, 2009, 03:28:11 PM »
WOW master: this worths a collective bow. the use of center blocks allow "curling" of the grain, beautiful!.
Thank you for showing!
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February 12, 2009, 03:38:08 PM »
Oh you're too funny Rolly!
Please, I'm no 'master'...I'm just like everyone else, I put my pants on one leg at a time!
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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February 14, 2009, 12:16:45 PM »
Hi all
here you can find some more designs like Blossom:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/puzzlebox/trikerubin/trikeru.html
happy puzzling
Utahfan
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Re: RD16, blossom, or something new?
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April 17, 2009, 04:07:16 PM »
Before thanking Roby and John in the right topic I would like to assemble the puzzle (supposed to be RD 16) I received as gift by Roby. It needed reglueing of two blocks which I have identified and fixed. But now the troubles begin: how has to be assembled this terrible puzzle?.... Someone can help me? It seems there are not instructions neither on PWPD nor in puzzle craft....
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April 17, 2009, 05:07:47 PM »
I would need to scan the solution, however this hopefully will help
3 1
4 3 4 1
4 2 3 4
2 2 3 1
2 1
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