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« on: January 24, 2009, 08:42:29 PM »

Okay, maybe someone out there can help me, I started to make some 'Uhappy Childhood' puzzles and thought ebony and holly would be a perfect choice, however I can't seem to get them bonded, no way, no how???  any suggestions to a newbie puzzlemaker?  Angry
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 08:44:13 PM »

Yeah I got a good suggestion, don't use HOLLY!!!!!!!! Angry
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 08:52:45 PM »

Holly has to be the worst $%#$%* wood, try to find a piece that isn't more knots than wood.  I don't think I'll use it again.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 08:56:46 PM »

Dude, I'm with you on that Holly.....my brother swears by the stuff but at $26.00 a board foot Shocked  No Thank YOU!!
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2009, 08:58:24 PM »

And don't use glue!!!

Also use Pine and Maple, makes good firewood, you don't cry so much as with holly and EBONY!

Thought you might need some support JD, can't let that Robey character win No 2 in posts .can we  >Cheesy >Cheesy

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2009, 09:17:53 PM »

It not just the gluing issues.  You'd better hope you don't have to do ANY sanding.  Holly will soak up that ebony dust and won't look so great.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2009, 09:20:46 PM »

OK OK

Theres a Superglue I use called Maverick, can get a set, or just the glue

I use it for quickfix, apply excess press, then apply the accelerator solvent, it evaporates quick, Wallah, 1 joint

German origin, not cheap but best as yet glue I have ever used in Aussieland. Set has glue, powder filler, primer, accelerator and cleaner

Bonds everything, especially fingers beautifully, and sets clear. When possible deprive oxygen and it sets instantly

And it makes you coffee too. email ustoyousales@bigpond.com or surf the net for one nearest you

About $50 lasts you 2 years, sucker them for a spare empty bottle and a few tips, they have fine mini tips too, acetone solvent keeps them reusable, as if,,,,you can attach a luer lock needle on it too, real viscous flow

Hope this helps, sorry about the earlier post, JD and I can't help ourselves, doesn't make coffee either

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2009, 09:21:34 PM »

Holly is wonderful wood.  In my top 5 list of favorite woods.  Still it does not glue well to ebony.  Take a razor and scratch little x's in both pieces of wood to be bonded.  This should rough it up enough for it to stick.  

The next problem you will be contacting us with, however, is how to actually sand the surface smooth without bleeding ebony into the holly.  Ebony is much harder than holly and its dust will embedd its way in when you sand.  Instead, pull a razor along the surface perpendicular to the wood to shave off the layers.

Don't let those lathies get you down on holly.  Next to ebony, it has the most wonderful contrast.  By the way, I think it is more about the ebony than the holly that keeps glue from sticking.  I work with holly all the time and never have a problem with glue sticking.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2009, 09:45:39 PM »

Canuck?  What part of Canada are you in?    So we all seem to agree that holly just isn't worth it!  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2009, 09:51:16 PM »

Holly is wonderful wood.  In my top 5 list of favorite woods.  Still it does not glue well to ebony.  Take a razor and scratch little x's in both pieces of wood to be bonded.  This should rough it up enough for it to stick.  

The next problem you will be contacting us with, however, is how to actually sand the surface smooth without bleeding ebony into the holly.  Ebony is much harder than holly and its dust will embedd its way in when you sand.  Instead, pull a razor along the surface perpendicular to the wood to shave off the layers.

Don't let those lathies get you down on holly.  Next to ebony, it has the most wonderful contrast.  By the way, I think it is more about the ebony than the holly that keeps glue from sticking.  I work with holly all the time and never have a problem with glue sticking.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, holly is crappy wood, blah, blah, blah, holly is crappy wood, blah, blah Grin
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2009, 09:57:01 PM »

Holly Rules - Canadians Don't Know Squat!!!!
What other wood can you cut 1/32" thick and still have it hold its form
What wood is flexible enough that you can use it for springs in puzzleboxes.
What wood absolutely will not warp once it is cured (I said once it is cured John).
What wood is as white (Ok perhaps pear)
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2009, 09:57:41 PM »

Canuck?  What part of Canada are you in?    So we all seem to agree that holly just isn't worth it!  Wink

What part of Canada?  The same part as you, the COLD part Grin

Don't let the 'beekeeper' talk you into using holly, it is without a doubt the crappiest wood that there is, you probably can't even grow mushrooms on the stuff Angry Grin
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2009, 10:06:08 PM »

Chinnomotto, a friend of mine swears by that glue, he said it worked best on skin.  He used it when he cut himself on the table saw,"better than stitches, cheaper than a doctor" he said.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 10:28:57 PM »

Did you see that flying mesage Robby sent, Cool

I agree with the Canadians, Hollywood, get it, Hollywood sucks!

About Maverick, They are a real quick fix on broken dentures , reattack, try in mouth if it still fits, then proper repair

Works on lips too, I swear by this stuff  watch,,,,,,,,,,,,        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,      .........................................
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2009, 10:33:22 PM »

Works on lips, huh?  Maybe I should get some of this glue.  I've got a few people to use it on.
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